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    Ahmadinejad Animation
    Sunday, May 14, 2006
    I found a very funny animation of Ahmajinejad on YouTube. Unfortunately it's in Persian, so accept my apologies if you're not familiar with the language.

    There was also a video on which he talks about "The Art of Defence". It shows how crazy he really is. It has English subtitles so there's no problem there.

    These are some of what he said:

    “Art reaches perfection, when it portrays the best life and the best DEATH.”. . . .

    “Is there art that is more beautiful, more divine, and more eternal, than the art of MARTYRDOM? A nation with martyrdom knows no captivity.”

    “The message of the (Islamic) Revolution is global, and is not restricted to a specific place and time. It is a human message, and it will move forward.”

    Not that I didn’t know him but the confidence that he shows makes it clear he is not just a talking idiot. He is prepared!

    Now, how can anyone say Islam has nothing to do with this? It is only religious nonsense that creates people like him.
    posted by Roya @ 2:10 AM  
    15 Comments:
    • At 15/5/06 4:19 AM, Blogger Steve said…

      "It is only religious nonsense that creates people like him."

      Well, when Prime Minister Mossadegh was assasinated in 1953 by British/American agents (seeking to prevent the infiltration of Iran by the Communists visavie the Tudeh party), the last hope of a Republican form of government died in Iran. This gave a huge opening to religious wackos like Khomeini. We gave him his big break.

      The rise of the Islamic Republic of Iran is a post-Shah phenomenon. Indeed, my best friend is Iranian and hates Ahmadinejad. Why does religious nonsense have such different affects on people?

      Moreover, if its true that such nonsense is all over the place, why does US media hail Ayatollah Sistani in Iraq as a stabilizing influence? It seems that such religious nonsense has its uses, from a policy perspective. It's just that in the case of Iran, it backfired one day in 1979 when a crazed maniac came to power.

      I know who I blame, and his name was Mohammad - Mohammad Reza Shah.

       
    • At 15/5/06 5:35 AM, Blogger Roya said…

      "Well, when Prime Minister Mossadegh was assasinated in 1953 by British/American agents (seeking to prevent the infiltration of Iran by the Communists visavie the Tudeh party), the last hope of a Republican form of government died in Iran. This gave a huge opening to religious wackos like Khomeini. We gave him his big break."

      Not true. It was other policies of shah that allowed people like Khomeini to get to power. America and Shah were so scared of the communists that they actively promoted religion in Iran. Shah himself attended Mosques in many occasions. He could have easily kill Khomeini and other religious people who opposed him. However, he was not afraid of them but saw them as a tool to fight the communists.

      It was the Americans/French/English who put Khomeini to power.

      The communist party of Tudeh did not believe in aggression and military opposition, and was in no way anti-democratic. They were the strongest opposition and could have taken over as a very good alternative. They were even part of the early post-Shah government before many of their leaders and follower got killed by Khomeini and his followers.

      “The rise of the Islamic Republic of Iran is a post-Shah phenomenon. Indeed, my best friend is Iranian and hates Ahmadinejad. Why does religious nonsense have such different affects on people?”

      Some people just believe in nonsense and some act on those nonsense. And you won’t find that many Iranians who are religious enough to have even read the Qur’an. There was a poll were they asked around 1000 Iranians, if there was a choice between fighting for your religion and fighting for your country, 92% said they would fight for their country (I found it on the net so it may not be reliable).

      However, I’m sure you’re aware of the most admired Shia Caliphate, Hussein. He did not give in to his enemies who asked him to surrender, even though the people with him only consisted of families. At the end, all 72 who were mainly women and children died as a result of his decision. He is been seen as a martyr because of this. He is been seen as a HERO because of this. AND THEY BELIEVED THIS BEFORE THE REVOLUTION FOR ABOUT 1300 YEARS.
      This is where the idea of martyrdom comes from.

      ”Moreover, if its true that such nonsense is all over the place, why does US media hail Ayatollah Sistani in Iraq as a stabilizing influence? It seems that such religious nonsense has its uses, from a policy perspective. It's just that in the case of Iran, it backfired one day in 1979 when a crazed maniac came to power.”

      Sistani also believes that gays should be killed. :)

      Have you lived in Iran to know that there is more than one stupid person? I had a friend who hated his father because he would change the channel whenever a mullah or Khomeini or Khamenei was shown giving a sermon. She believed anybody who does not LOVE them should be killed. And she was not alone in thinking that.

       
    • At 15/5/06 5:38 AM, Blogger Roya said…

      Wow! How much did I write. If only essay writting was that easy. :(

       
    • At 15/5/06 2:47 PM, Blogger Steve said…

      Roya - you make good points. My main point was to suggest the historical/political dimensions to Ahmadinejad far outweight the religious ones.

       
    • At 15/5/06 3:57 PM, Blogger Roya said…

      "My main point was to suggest the historical/political dimensions to Ahmadinejad far outweight the religious ones."

      Wrong. He is not a Palestinian, is he? He has forgoten he is the President of Iran because he only sees from a religious perspective.

      When Shah allowed women to vote, religious people protested, was that not a religious issue?

       
    • At 15/5/06 6:28 PM, Blogger Steve said…

      roya - i think you are confusing a lot of issues. For example, even though the Shah permitted women to vote, and Khomeini came out strongly against it, claiming he would rescind the right to vote, what happened? you know as well as I do that politics trumped religion, since Khomeini had so many female supporters, he went back on his word. Religion is a powerful tool, but don't give to as much credit as you do.

      I have not converted to Islam, in answer to your post on Bacon's page. There are obvious contradictions in the Qur'an, as evident from the Skeptics Annotated Qur'an. Like all religious books, it has lots of flaws.

      In fact, when you study anything, you find there is no such thing as an "air tight" position. There is always another side roya, keep that in mind. Sometimes atheists spend so much time with theists, that whole "absolute truth" business gets stuck in our heads.

       
    • At 15/5/06 7:08 PM, Blogger Steve said…

      Aya shoma Farsi harf mizanid?

      Man yek mah hast ke farsi ray ad migiram.

      That's the best I can do... oh and I can say "Man bist-o-se sal daram" I'll admit, I have my Farsi book next to me.

      :) Lets not get off on the same foot as I did with Bacon. We can at least talk about where we disagree without any name calling. Khodafez...

       
    • At 15/5/06 7:41 PM, Blogger Roya said…

      Your Persian is good. Keep it up. :)

       
    • At 15/5/06 7:45 PM, Blogger Steve said…

      thanks! Here, we can also agree on this part of things anyway:

      http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/first.html

       
    • At 15/5/06 8:02 PM, Blogger Roya said…

      Are you agnostic?

      man ham bist salame. hanooz bachcham.

       
    • At 15/5/06 8:16 PM, Blogger Steve said…

      no, I'm atheist. you're a 20 year old student? What are you studying?

      There is a funny movie you should see, called "The Lizard," (aka Marmoulak) which makes fun of clerics - banned in Iran of course. If you haven't already seen it, you should. It's got some hilarious scenes, like when the dude tries to lead prayer and he just keeps repeating "Allah Akbar," "Allah Akbar." but not having any idea what to do.

      I also like the movie "House of Sand and Fog - it has some good scenes in it

      :)

       
    • At 16/5/06 12:42 AM, Blogger Roya said…

      Read my profile. It says it all.

       
    • At 16/5/06 3:17 AM, Blogger Steve said…

      This comment has been removed because it linked to malicious content. Learn more.

       
    • At 16/5/06 4:41 AM, Blogger Roya said…

      I'm not a Marxist.

      I have 4-5 weeks to finish my semester. I'll talk about where I stand in a post when I finish.

       
    • At 16/5/06 1:01 PM, Blogger Steve said…

      That's good. Like I said, most anarchists are followers of Marx, except they don't envision any kind of socialist society as a half-measure before Communism (a truly statesless society).

      As for your exams - Mo’afagh bashed. i know that in australia, most/all your finals are cumulative testing across all the semester's material. here in america, our exams are not necessarily like that. In a way, you're lucky - better education.

      i'll try to visit your blog - don't worry, I don't bite. We would probably get along if we'd ever met - I've read Ferdousi and know the story of the Shahnahmeh (the ultimate in pro-Persian literature), how bad can I be?

      take care,
      s

       
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