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Name: Roya
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About Me: I went from looking for god to finding him evil to finding he does not exist, all before turning 14. Now, I can proudly say, I'm a libertarian, an anarchist, and a free thinker.
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    What do you think?
    Tuesday, May 09, 2006
    Imagine there is someone in a hospital that needs blood transfusion to survive. He needs to get blood for nine months constantly without any stop. However he has a rear blood type and you are the only one who has the same blood type as his. As he would die without you, you are forced to give blood constantly to him. You would loose a lot of nutrition and your body would not look as young as it would if you did not have to give your blood. You would also have more chance of osteoporosis (later in old age) and of a more severe type. However, your act would give life to someone else. Should you be forced to do so?

    I'm curious why no "pro-lifer" ever advocates such things except when it comes to abortion? Why aren't we forced to give blood or a kidney or to adopt street kids, if these are needed to save lifes? Why do they pro-lifers have a problem with bringing a new life to this world to save an existing life?

    I also have found another version of the same problem, which you may like better.
    posted by Roya @ 5:28 AM  
    • At 9/5/06 7:17 PM, Blogger Stardust1954 said…

      I have asked people these same questions and never get a clear answer. One time at a gas station I noticed a large sticker on the vehicle that was parked in front of mine and the owner of that vehicle was pumping gas. The bumper sticker was a pro-life message with a picture of a fetus on it and it said "Mothers, This Is Your Son". I thought that was very heartless to have on display since there are so many women in the world who have endured the heartbreak of miscarriage, and for some women who have gone through the emotional pain that comes with having an abortion.
      Anyway, I could not help myself. I asked this man "So, How many unwanted children have you adopted?" He said "I beg your pardon?" I repeated the question and he told me "It is none of your business." I told him that a woman's uterus is none of his business either.

      Some pro-lifers do practice what they preach and have adopted and helped desperate pregnant women and their children, and some do give blood, and others kidneys etc...but most just want to preach and tell people how to live without HELPING them to live.

    • At 9/5/06 8:13 PM, Blogger Filip said…

      Vaghat mikhastam begam salam.


    • At 10/5/06 12:30 AM, Blogger Roya said…

      I understand stardust. Some religious people can be good as well. The problem is that going through pregnancy is not that easy.

      If someone wants to adopt, it is their choice, but trying to force someone to go through pregnancy against their own will is not a chioce is it?

      There are many orphants in the world that need to be adopted or helped in someway or another in order to survive. What I don't get is why those pro-lifers who want to force women to give birth by changing the law, don't advocate changes to the law so that everyone has to adopt at least one child to help those lifes to survive. If they are true pro-lifers that's what they would have done.

      If a women can be forced to give life, others should be forced to help as well. Otherwise, we are saying that it is the women's fault she is pregnant, so she has to pay for it.

    • At 10/5/06 12:31 AM, Blogger Roya said…

      Salam Filip.

    • At 10/5/06 2:41 AM, Blogger JustinOther said…

      The motto should be changed to pro-fetus or pro-embryo, or even pro-ovum. The same people who are ardently pro-life are often pro-capital punishment as well. These people abhor the death of a group of nondifferentiated cells but are OK with killing a "born person". As I've heard argued before, cancer is a group of ones own cells which multiply much too quickly. As these are one's own cells, isn't removing the tumor a form of killing life? May be a stretch, but underlines the question; Where do you draw the line?

      Of note...there need to be many more organ and blood donors, but no one should be forced to do so (as I'm sure you agree).

    • At 10/5/06 3:04 AM, Blogger Roya said…

      J, what I meant was that forcing a woman to give birth is just the same as forcing people to adopt kids. A pro-lifer could not choose between the two and the fact that they only support the first one, shows that their motive is religiously based and has nothing to do with valuing life itself.

      I agree with you that they are not pro-lifers and that's the point that I wanted to make (I guess I didn't succeed in that :( ).

    • At 11/5/06 1:24 PM, Blogger CyberKitten said…

      Thanks for the link to my Blog & adding me to your Blogroll. I have returned the compliment.

    • At 11/5/06 6:06 PM, Blogger Stardust1954 said…

      If someone wants to adopt, it is their choice, but trying to force someone to go through pregnancy against their own will is not a chioce is it?

      I agree with what you are saying. If pro-lifers started adopting babies they would feel justified further to tell a pregnant woman she cannot have an abortion. So...I guess I won't be asking pro-lifers that question anymore! I don't want to give them any ideas!

      My anger towards pro-lifers is that they are all talk and no action. They could contribute time to Planned Parenthood and help educate young people about safe sex and birth control. But many of them don't want to even talk about that.

      But that goes back to fundamentalists being against education.

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